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Chemical Soup: Navigating Toxins in Our Daily Lives

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We tackle the often-overlooked topic of daily chemical exposures and their significant impact on our health journey. We explore practical strategies for reducing toxin load from personal care products, home cleaning supplies, water quality, food storage, and air purification.

• What touches your skin enters your bloodstream within 30 seconds
• Personal care products should be replaced gradually with cleaner alternatives using EWG's Skin Deep database
• Home water filtration matters significantly with options ranging from countertop filters to shower filters
• Glass food storage containers should replace plastic immediately to reduce microplastic contamination
• Coffee preparation methods matter – French press and pour-over have fewer chemical exposures than single-use pods
• Air purifiers with HEPA filtration make a substantial difference in indoor air quality
• The "total load" concept explains why reducing obvious chemical exposures is important
• Organic produce matters most for the "dirty dozen" fruits and vegetables with highest pesticide residues
• Small, consistent improvements to reduce chemical exposures add up to significant health benefits

Lead In Stanley/Yeti Stainless Steel Bottles? - not a concern, it doesn't come in contact with the liquid/food.. it's a seal between layers. 

SMASH Fish? Sardines, Mackerel, Anchovies, Salmon, Herring 

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Mitchell:

Welcome to Facilitated, where we bring you real stories, strategies and science from the world of functional medicine. I'm Dr Mitchell Rasmussen, a functional medicine practitioner.

Kate:

And I'm Kate Daugherty, a certified nutritionist. We are the owners of the Facility, a functional medicine clinic here in Denver, Colorado.

Mitchell:

We help people improve their biology and get out of their own way. We help people improve their biology and get out of their own way. In my view, our work is about getting to know the person with the condition much more than it's about understanding which condition the person has. As I always say, diagnose the biology, not the disease.

Kate:

On this podcast we break down complex health topics, share real patient cases anonymized, of course and explore cutting-edge wellness strategies so you can make informed decisions about your health. Quick heads up before we dive in this podcast is for education and general information only. We're here to share insights, not to diagnose or treat. So if you're dealing with a health issue, chat with a qualified healthcare provider before making any changes. All right, let's get into it.

Mitchell:

All right, today we want to talk a little bit about, in my opinion, something that isn't talked about enough but is highly relevant to health and ill health, which is, you know, we spend so much time thinking about the foods we eat, but how much time are we spending thinking about the chemicals that we're interacting with in our home environment and in our self-care routine on a daily basis? What are typical questions that we'll ask somebody?

Kate:

So we're thinking about all kinds of different exposures, different systems. We'll start with things like do you drink tap water? How do you choose your personal care products? How do you choose your cleaning products?

Mitchell:

It's essentially this idea that 30 seconds after you put something on your skin, it's within your bloodstream. We had a new patient this week who likes to use a lot of perfume. She's in the post-menopause phase and I'm a little bit concerned about her hormones as a previous breast cancer survivor, and she told me that she loves wearing perfume and I think she said wow, you're taking away everything I love. It was the day we met her. I don't remember what the other two things were.

Kate:

Coffee, I know, was one of them.

Mitchell:

Which I think the conversation was. We've got to move our coffee back to help that cortisol, but the perfume was a big one, so I guess where I settled in with her. Because she doesn't. We don't have that rapport yet to know that I'm coming from a place of intense understanding about how these chemicals can impact our biology, so I simply simply said okay, for now don't put the perfume on your thyroid or on your wrist. Could you just put it on your clothes. Is that the best?

Mitchell:

No but in my opinion that's good, or at least better than what she was doing, and that'll kind of get us down the line a little bit until other changes are on board, so that that can become a little easier to maybe potentially remove altogether. What do you think about lotions?

Kate:

Well, I was going to say I think there's a lot of trade-offs like that. We don't expect anybody to have a perfect environment. I mean, I don't even know if it's possible in the world we live in right now to completely avoid every source of plastic or every chemical. So it is. It's these trade-offs of. Okay, what are, what is the most important to you and where are the ways that you can make some small changes to make the total load a little bit better?

Mitchell:

Right, because we have an amazing detoxification system. The problem is we are working with people who often have a couple hundred different things going on within their body that contribute to their extensive symptom list and that's where, like you said, it's about the improvement along that line. An example I was thinking about last night was I've been doing this about a decade with patients and in the last three months I've gotten rid of dishwasher pods to a much more clean, enzymatic formula where there's no plastics within the pods. Who's been using cleaner lotions for years, who avoids those benzenes within those sunscreens that are popular as much as possible, and as somebody who is also quite aware of laundry detergents and avoiding candles, I guess maybe a little blind spot for me was what am I washing my dishes in?

Mitchell:

And I'll tell you my my logic on it was well, they're rinsed a lot, so it's not that big of a deal. But you know what I think? Maybe even it's not for the stewardship of my own body, but maybe it's even about the environment. You know how we we pollute the environment and we pollute ourselves when we're using these kind of chemicals and, for some reason, me thinking about the water quality around me that I was releasing from my dishwasher was actually the push I needed. It wasn't enough to think about myself with these potentially on my dishes again because of my justification for rinsing things so well, but it was knowing that this might pollute the earth that finally sold it for me yeah.

Kate:

So you asked me about lotion and I skipped over it because I had a point I was trying to make, but I'll go back to that. Personal care products lotions, body washes, shampoos. My recommendation for almost every patient is I don't want you to go into your bathroom and do a total overhaul all at once, but I do want you to, as you're running out of things. Look at it, consider it. Is it something that you want to repurchase or is it something that needs a replacement for a cleaner product? And I will use the EWG's Skin Deep database. It's really amazing. You can search any product by brand name. They even have a barcode scanner, if you use the app version, and you can see their rating for it for cleanliness, which is essentially how toxic is it, how many chemicals are in the product, and so, one at a time, can you upgrade what you're choosing to make it a better choice.

Mitchell:

And it is all about load right. A lot of there's a lot of mainstream influencers right now that are kind of mocking this idea of, oh, toxins water is a toxin. Yeah, hyperhidrosis, you drink too much water, you could die. You drink too much water, you could die.

Mitchell:

Like the dose is relevant and we're not going to look at one product as being what causes your disease, unless I guess we're looking at like was it talcum, or talc we saw in baby powders was actually directly linked to certain I don't know if it was cancers or neurological conditions when it was used chronically.

Mitchell:

We see that we see roundup as quite confirmatory of being carcinogenic at this point. But yeah, you're right, instagram, famous people we might not die from one of these chemicals. Life is chemicals, all of that but we are talking about hundreds or thousands of daily exposures to these things and that adds up. And until you are sitting with someone who's unwell and inflamed and their brain doesn't work and they've got autoimmune disease and they've been to all of these standard intervention styles and they've gotten all the fancy medications and they're still suffering, you do not understand how relevant these changes can be. I'm incredibly passionate about this because I'm so tired of these well-known people that almost mock this idea of toxicity and toxins and all this stuff because it is, it's the total load that is out of control in our modern world, this world of convenience out of control in our modern world, this world of convenience.

Kate:

Yeah, so we've got our personal care products and home cleaning products, but let's go back to water for a second. What are some ways that we can? What are the best choices when it comes to water filtration, water purification versus tap water?

Mitchell:

Oh, tap water. Just, you know, just drink the tap. I actually was raised in a small town in Wisconsin. Our tap water is insanely healthy and maybe do you find when you go home you like the flavor of your water. Well, we have a whole RO system.

Kate:

Okay.

Mitchell:

Because I sometimes wonder if maybe it is trash and it's just what I was raised on, so I love it. But no, I worked. My first job was working at the water treatment plant. That stuff is.

Kate:

That's an eye-opening experience, oh yeah.

Mitchell:

Especially as someone who doesn't love germs all over me unclogging lift stations and pumping out clogged manhole whatever those are called the sewage systems on the streets. Oh boy, I was panic attack every day. But, point being, some tap water might be okay in certain smaller areas, but I actually I just moved and I went on. I searched for my water quality in my zip code. I challenge all of you do that. Google what is my water quality and you will find plenty of pieces of information in a database. And what we saw out here was actually radioactive elements.

Kate:

I think it was a high amount of was it, cadmium and tin.

Mitchell:

And I mean there was stuff I didn't even think about uranium, yeah stuff like that, and one of them actually I think there was seven of them in my zip code said that they were upwards of a thousand times what the epa says is safe that's comforting yeah, exactly so.

Mitchell:

Water filtration is really important. I think one issue with reverse osmosis is certain things actually won't be taken out. We also know that in some settings those ro filters can actually become somewhat moldy. So I think managing that system, frequent checking of it it's a little bit of a pain in the butt, but that I think that's a decent option. What are you using right now at?

Kate:

home I just have a countertop unit, so I'm still using a borough unit. Um, so it has internal filters where you pour the water on the top it largely charcoal, I believe uh, to filter out everything except for fluoride I have fluoride filters.

Mitchell:

You added them okay I'm waiting because burrow doesn't have theirs out yet that are not plastic free, so you're using those original berkey ones. Yeah, those are great, but my only issue is the plastic sits in the water but it's like can't win them all. It's interesting. I used to think it was like a conspiracy. Why do these filters not take out fluoride? Fluoride, because of its solubility and its size, is actually really tricky to filter out. So a lot of companies have to make an extra type of filter add-on to get that fluoride out. And then that's based on individual Whether you want that fluoride or not. I think that is a complicated conversation, but we do know that it can be a neurotoxin.

Mitchell:

So water yeah, back to water. I actually I've used so many different types. I for a while actually got my water shipped to me from a spring and that became kind of annoying to have these massive jugs all around the home Because I go through a lot of water, because, yes, of course, the dogs only drink the best. You're shaking your head right now. Yes, my dogs drink shipped to me spring water. I had a bit of an issue just with, like I said, the space that it was taking up. So now I'm back on that burrow slash, berkey life, patiently waiting for their fluoride filters to come on. I've used zero water, I mean. Bottom line we don't know the long-term effects of all these exposures. So I would rather take easy, relatively easy steps before I'm waiting for the data to come back and tell me that it doesn't matter. Not only that, but wouldn't you say it tastes better?

Kate:

It definitely tastes better. Yeah, yeah.

Mitchell:

Yeah, and fridge filters oftentimes don't do enough. They essentially make it taste better, but they don't remove a lot of those what we call those forever chemicals, those pfos and those microplastics I do think that's an issue yeah, so drinking water big category.

Kate:

I think next level on top of that is bathing water, shower water, um and again you can get a filter specific for that a lot of different companies now, yes, make them.

Mitchell:

And because picture you're having hot water and you could potentially aerosolize the chlorine in the water and then now you're breathing it into your lung tissues. So if you're somebody that struggles with histamine type reactions migraines, itchiness after exercise, itchiness after showering, things like that I would highly recommend getting a shower filter to at least pull out the chlorine. Most cities now have chlorine in their water supply and you're essentially just bathing in an antibiotic or drinking an antibiotic. So I do find that relevant. Just back to that concept of with the patient with perfume, what touches your skin goes in your body. So this massive organ, this skin all over our body, is an absorptive organ. So we have to consider the exposure that way.

Kate:

Okay. So personal care products, home cleaning products, water. Let's talk about food storage. So in our modern environment, you are not going to avoid everything, especially if you are someone who is eating out, even moderately. So that's where improving what you have access to at home, what you're using at home on a daily basis, actually does matter, and getting the plastics out of your food storage is a huge step.

Mitchell:

Not only food storage, but also food prep.

Mitchell:

Sure Right, thinking about, there was a recent paper that came out saying that a lot of the black plastic utensils or spatulas and things like that were recycled from old electronics that were full of extra chemicals, flame retardants and the like, from things like television sets. I prefer wood or silicone or stainless steel when it comes to spatulas and spoons and the such, and then from a cooking surface that goes back to like the food storage as you're bathing your food on the surface with heat. I would prefer not to have Teflon, sure Right. And then, like you said, glass storage containers. Would you say that's a non-negosh? Non-negosh? Yeah, that's not one of these, oh said, glass storage containers.

Kate:

Would you say that's a non-negosh?

Mitchell:

Non-negosh. Yeah, that's not one of these. Oh, do it in six months, wait till your plastic fades away and melts and then get glass. That's one of those where it's like throw it out today, yep, and it'll last longer, unless you're like me.

Kate:

Gosh the amount of glass we clean up in our clinic.

Mitchell:

But the amount of plastic I'm not consuming is equally as impressive. Yeah, I mean, I probably go through 10 glass jars a year. You think more. I see that. Look on your face. And I, I just say yesterday I got five new glass food storage containers.

Kate:

I'm, you know, mine last about a year, before they inevitably fall off the counter and break, and that's a whole thing, but it matters to me yeah, so glass food storage, but then uh, stainless steel, glass, ceramic, especially when we're thinking about drinking hot things out of those I'm thinking thinking coffee vessels here and I'm I not as concerned.

Mitchell:

There was some fear going around about things like Yetis and stainless steel mugs because some of them had lead in them. To my understanding, in some of these containers that are double-walled insulation on these stainless steel, there was a bead of lead that kind of kept the system all together, but I'm thinking that it doesn't actually impact what's inside of the mug as long as you haven't cracked it what do you think about that?

Kate:

how about I look at, look this up for you and put it in the show notes? Okay?

Mitchell:

yeah, I'm so official. I feel like a real podcaster yeah, I think you'll have to circle back for that one okay, so using your own vessels for hot beverages, what do you think about?

Kate:

you're out at a store and you're thirsty and you need to buy a drink. What do you do?

Mitchell:

Well, I'm that guy. We just had this on a family trip down to Florida, went to Whole Foods and bought a huge case of Mountain Valley spring water in glass bottles. You might get that plastic bottle of water while it's cold, but who's to say that that wasn't sitting on a truck in the sun and in the heat for maybe months at a time, breaking down those microplastics that then get absorbed into the water? That is very scary to me to potentially consume that chronically. So if you're traveling, I highly recommend either bring a stainless steel or a glass jar with you and then you can add. You know so many stores now have reverse osmosis systems within the grocery store you can use.

Mitchell:

I think that's an issue, and then people make fun of me, but if I do go out for coffee, I bring my own cup. We know that potentially hundreds of thousands of pieces of microplastics could be inside of a Starbucks drink within 10 to 15 minutes after it's poured. How do you think that paper cup doesn't get soggy in five minutes? It's because it's lined with all sorts of chemicals that prevent leakage, but the problem is they break down in that heated drink. That's highly relevant. I also think, uh, something that people don't think about is tea bags. What do you think about chronically drinking with tea bags?

Kate:

so again now we have our food inside of a plastic vessel that we're heating, the best case, best tea practice, is definitely using a loose leaf tea with a stainless steel strainer and avoiding that plastic bag altogether and I would even contend that coffee or tea that is in that pre-ground process form is probably broken down already.

Mitchell:

It's not going to taste as well as something like a nice canned loose leaf tea. It's typically fresher. You can control the dosage of nutrients that you want, but you're also not heating up a plastic teabag. I had a guy in front of me. He had a cup with like five tea bags in it and I asked him what that was about and he said, yeah, by the end of every day I just keep filling it with hot water and adding tea bags as I go. By the end of the day I'll have like seven or eight tea bags in here.

Mitchell:

And the look he gave me when I said, well, you are full of synthetic estrogen. Well, you are full of synthetic estrogen. I looked like I had three heads. He was shocked that he never knew that. Nobody mentioned it and it was not a hard change for him to stop doing the tea bags. But that was just pointed out to me how these things are not common knowledge. These chemicals that we're constantly interacting with are ubiquitous in our environment and we oftentimes are doing things day to day that we're not even realized or potentially sabotaging our hormones and our neurological health.

Kate:

Should we talk about coffee makers?

Mitchell:

This is. This is probably the most depressed. I make people Yep. Do you think I'm off on that?

Kate:

No, pressed, I make people yep. Do you think I'm off on that? No, I mean, it makes a very real difference when it comes to hormones, when we have women who are telling me their morning cup of coffee every day is made in a keurig or in an espresso machine.

Mitchell:

Nespresso with the n, not an espresso machine, it's a daily plastic bomb and not to mention coffee being a profound source of antioxidants and nutrition and polyphenols and prebiotics. When it's fresh ground, it's pesticide free, it's mold tested and it's mixed with glass in a french press or in a pour over, you're getting all that nutrition. But when you're having an espresso or a keurig, that coffee was roasted and ground up maybe a year ago so it's breaking down. There's not really much nutrition in that. And then I'm holding water in the back of a plastic machine for maybe two, three days at a time where it can harbor mold, and then the entire system is plastic. That's usually being used to heat the water. And then I have a plastic tube that jets hot water through a plastic pod and then it just dumps plastic water into my cup. There's nothing more depressing to me than a bad cup of coffee. So I don't even care necessarily about that. I do care about both. I care about the chemicals and the taste, right.

Kate:

It tastes terrible, yeah, and it's funny.

Mitchell:

You used to think that I was crazy to make that, and when you changed over, I think I've only seen your life get better from there.

Kate:

Okay, this is a brain exercise for me. Personal care products, home care products, water, coffee, food storage what are we leaving out? Next up, air quality yeah, air quality.

Mitchell:

Okay, here's a quiz for you how many air filters do I have running in my apartment right now?

Kate:

it's, it's gonna be higher than I say, and I I've said it so many times.

Mitchell:

I think it's six, eight. I have eight.

Kate:

I'm not a numbers person and I change them regularly.

Mitchell:

Air quality is a killer. In colorado we have a lot of pollution outside. People tend to keep their windows hermetically sealed and closed up. We've got air conditioners running that might have a filter that hasn't been changed enough with pet dander or mold spores on it. I am so interested in air quality, especially because the interaction of these airborne pollutants with our lung tissue is a gateway right into our bloodstream Right, and we have a lot of people with chronic mold issues, chronic sinus issues, allergies of all types, and they're fatigued, they're exhausted, they've got hormone problems and gallbladder issues and interacting with cleaner air is absolutely a part of their treatment plan.

Mitchell:

We go so far sometimes as saying HEPA isn't even enough If you have. You know the ideal thing if you have mold in your environment is get the person out of the environment so they can heal, remediate the place before you come back in. That's not feasible for most people, so we'll actually use something called a micro HEPA filter where we can filter down to, I think, 0.01 microns the air, which should pull over 99% of airborne mold out. I think that's important.

Mitchell:

A true HEPA filter does a generally good job, I would say, as long as you change the filters more frequently than they ask, because I don't know if you've ever looked at a filter a few months into use. It says use for 12 months. At months that thing is black. I have two dogs, you know not a dirty apartment, but it's like so now I'm pulling all this air over this black filter media so I'm really picky on how often I change those. And again, I keep them running 24 7. It improves sleep, it's good noise, but it also just turns over that stale dirty air in my place multiple times every hour.

Kate:

You might be thinking this is a lot of steps, this is a lot of things. You might be feeling overwhelmed. But again, all about trade-offs. If you have a dog or a pet that's sleeping in your bedroom, it's a much better conversation to say, hey, why don't you get an air filter in your room?

Mitchell:

then get rid of your dog or you know they could sleep on the floor they're still in the room with you yeah, but just get them off those sheets, yeah, yeah. The only time the dogs come up in my bed is saturday mornings, before I wash the sheets. What are you so thinking about air?

Kate:

that's really another thing with the air. Do you remember this patient we had who went to india and the air quality in india and how quickly it affected her?

Mitchell:

didn't she have like an aura ring? Her HRV went down, her sleep scores, her overnight pulse or oxygen saturation decreased and she's a very healthy, strong marathon runner.

Kate:

Yeah, fascinating yeah.

Mitchell:

And yeah, I forgot about that. She was impacted great. I think the sleep became a serious issue for her and I think she said she can do that via zoom, going forward instead of traveling over there personal care products, home cleaning products, water, air quality food storage, food prep, food food preparation.

Kate:

There is a whole lot we could say about clothing. I don't know if I want to touch it in this episode.

Mitchell:

Is that a pun? Because it's always touching us and we're ignoring it.

Kate:

Yeah.

Mitchell:

I mean, I'm not there yet. I'm slowly transitioning over things like boxer shorts. That's a great example of as they're becoming to their end of their useful lifespan. I'm there's a company nads that makes much more clean undergarments, and that's an avenue that I will be going down. I'm not sure how that. That's a lot tougher right. It's really hard to find these clothes, and oftentimes they're kind of dorky.

Kate:

You embrace the barefoot trend pretty quickly.

Mitchell:

Yeah, that's been a long time, the ultimate dork. Okay, all right, so I will throw out my. I'm not going to name any brands of horrible chemical makers within their clothes, but yeah, you know what? That will be a thing in the future, absolutely as things wear out. I want you to just spend a couple minutes at the end here talking about your thoughts on organic foods, pesticides on our foods, just quickly.

Kate:

Okay, I will briefly say something about choosing organic produce. I do think that is best choice when it's possible, but there is a workaround. The EWG puts out a list every year of I think it's the top 150, 140 produce of fruits and vegetables and they rank them based on cleanliness. So the very top of the list 1 through 15, is what we call the clean 15. And these are the fruits and vegetables with the least amount of pesticide contamination, whether you're choosing conventional or organic. Every year the top of the list is avocados. Other things that tend to be up there are things like pineapple or mango, which have tougher skins that you're not necessarily consuming, so the actual fruit doesn't have as many pesticides on it.

Kate:

The bottom of the list, the very last 12 items, are what we call the dirty dozen. These are the ones that are most contaminated. Opposite from the top, it tends to be things like berries, tomatoes, things with soft skins that can easily be penetrated with these pesticides that are sprayed on them. Those are the items that I recommend always choosing organic. So when you're doing your grocery shopping, keep a list of here's my dirty dozen, here's my clean 15. These are the ones that I want to make the extra expense and choose organic.

Mitchell:

These are the ones that it doesn't matter so much, and I can choose conventional when it makes sense and I think lettuces right greens are so important to try to limit the pesticides, and something that you make clear to people when we talk about this with patients is I can't necessarily guarantee that there's not a pesticide on it.

Mitchell:

I have to place my trust somewhere, though, and I believe that beliefs shape health, and when I buy these things inorganic, I truly believe in my heart that it's healthier and it's a better option, and I think that there's actually a benefit to that belief system of taking care of oneself. So there's a a benefit to that belief system of taking care of oneself. So there's a power there. The other thing I think about is I can't control if a nearby farm potentially sprayed something that got in the air and traveled and was put on to this organic food. I cannot control that, but I do the best I can. And then, when it comes to meats, I'm big time particular on not only ethical when it comes to red meat, try to be as ethical as possible. A lot of good options around us, but a lot of good options even on the internet, where you can get organic grass, fed grass, finished meats.

Mitchell:

Think organic chicken is probably quite important just because we know that chickens tend to aggregate metals and certain genetically modified non-organic foods that chickens are fed when they're conventionally raised will make their way into the fat tissue of that animal and then we consume them, and then we just get a higher dose of these. Similar to when you think about fish consumption Higher on the food chain, more predatory fish tend to have higher contaminants.

Kate:

It's the same thing with any sort of creature that is an animal, yeah, so what's interesting with the organic meat designation is to be USDA organic. They have to be fed organic food as well. You you mentioned fish. I'll just say that too. There's no such thing as organic fish, but there's a. The designation there is wild caught versus farm raised. Wild caught is going to be a better choice yeah, absolutely.

Mitchell:

We always say the smash fish, the lowest contaminant fish, or the sardines, the mackerel, the anchovies, the salmon and the herring. I think I like where this conversation has gone, but we're definitely feeling like we've had to leave off a few topics that I think are relevant. I would say oral health could be its own show, massive, important topic there. When it comes to chemicals, we also are interested in things like radiation exposure and electromagnetic frequencies. I'm really cautious about things like using airpods all the time and bluetooth. I really limit bluetooth use big time during the day. Whenever I'm not connecting something to bluetooth that I need, I will actually turn it off on my device. Same with at night, always putting my phone on airplane mode. I can't. If I had my own home, like you do, I would even turn off wi-fi router at night. I would get that particular and what other topic? I think there was a couple more that we just can't really cover today.

Kate:

yeah, I think another big one is uh and facial treatments. So, thinking about Botox, thinking about injections, thinking about even things like gel manicures I think that's a whole topic in itself that we could get into.

Mitchell:

Especially because I want to see how strong and healthy your fingernails are and if you come to me with a dipped manicure, I can't assess you for nutrient deficiencies or psoriasis or potentially cardiovascular issues because I can't even see those fingernails. Yeah, I would love to talk about the potential nervous system or immune system changes as a result of Botox injections, not even just talking about, like atrophy of facial tissues, but the actual systemic potential involvement with those chronic injections.

Kate:

All right. Lots of choices, lots of things to think about. Never expecting perfection it's not possible but what are the small choices you can make to make things better for yourself? And that's a wrap for this episode of Facilitated. If you enjoyed it, hit subscribe because, let's be honest, you'll forget otherwise. And if you really loved it, please leave us a review. Not only does it make Mitchell feel warm and fuzzy inside, but it also helps more people find functional medicine without falling into a Google rabbit hole. For more about what we do at the facility, check out our website, wwwthefacilitydenvercom. You can also follow us on Instagram at the facility Denver for extra tips behind the scenes, fun and updates on new episodes. Thanks for listening. Now go facilitate your own health and we'll see you next time.